Today in Bullshift: Mr. Regular hates it too

"bhtooefr" (bhtooefr) 09/16/2017 at 09:09 • Filed to: bullshift, cvt, scion, scion im, im, toyota, auris, toyota auris

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Apparently the Scion iM bullshifts, and RCR complains about it. (Skip to 7:14 if it didn’t start there, and watch to the end.)

Probenja > bhtooefr 09/16/2017 at 09:35

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I really hate when owners don’t know their cars and assume things, I would much rather having them not knowing than assuming information, the iM is the same as the Corolla just with a hatchback and IRS, also uses the same engine and transmission as the Corolla ECO (with Valvematic). And technically the CH-R was the real last Scion even though it’s badged as a Toyota.

bhtooefr > Probenja 09/16/2017 at 09:51

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It’s shorter wheelbase than the current Corolla sedan, too (by 100 mm), but yeah, it’s the same platform. (At least outside of Japan - in Japan, the Corolla’s rather different than it is everywhere else.)

I’m inclined to agree that the C-HR, at least as it is now, in the US market, is rather Sciony - limited optioning, the downmarket Scion head unit that the iM also gets (whereas a Corolla gets the full Entune head unit), that kind of thing. That said, AFAIK, the only models that have ever been true Scions - as in, not rebadged Toyotas from somewhere else in the world - have been the tC (which is related to the Avensis, but is its own model, although the second-gen was rebadged as the Toyota Zelas for some markets), and the second-gen xB (which was rebadged as the Toyota Corolla Rumion and the Rukus for other markets).

Everything else - the xA and xD, being rebaged ists (...which actually predicted the subcompact FWD crossover before it took off); the first-gen xB, being a rebadged bB; the iQ, which is... the iQ; the FR-S, which is the 86; the iM, which is the Auris; and, the iA, which is the Mazda2 sedan - has been rebadged from something else first.